Episode 5 - Beyond the T

Episode 5 August 04, 2020 00:35:51
Episode 5 - Beyond the T
A Most Unusual T Party
Episode 5 - Beyond the T

Aug 04 2020 | 00:35:51


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Join us as we explore not just what tale Kirsten MacDonell's (co-founder of YEG Boss Babes) T tells, but what some of the other features of her handwriting say about her.  We explore handwriting characteristics such as baseline, slant, roundness and how her signature speaks volumes about her.

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Speaker 0 00:00:04 Welcome, pull up a chair. Feel your mug. Get comfy. Join us at the table for the most unusual tea party. Here's your host and graph ologist Theresa April. Speaker 1 00:00:18 Welcome everyone. And thank you for joining us for our most unusual tea party. I'm Teresa Abraham, a handwriting analyst, and I've got my mug at hand though. What's inside of it. You're not going to find out for about another 20 minutes or so. Our guest today is Kirsten McDonnell and she's the co founder of YAG boss Bates. How are you doing today, Kirsten? Hey, I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, I am just, I'm very excited about what's in store. Can you just tell our listeners a little bit about your company and what it is that you do? Yeah, for sure. So YAG boss babes, uh, started here in Edmonton in the fall of 2017. Um, and we offer events, workshops, and online resources for small businesses and entrepreneurs in the Edmonton area. Our membership program is an affordable opportunity for this small business owners to access exclusive resources, industry discounts, and events that are curated by the YAG boss babes team. Speaker 1 00:01:22 We are all about bringing together relatable industry experts that are local to the Edmonton area and providing amazing networking events that are second to none. I can personally speak to that. I have attended one of your events and was thoroughly impressed with it. It was so well done and put together, thank you so much. You know, the part that I really find amazing too, is that you're so welcoming to people even when they're not a member yet. And I think that is really something very unique about the YAG boss. Thank you so much. Yeah. We pride ourselves on offering all of our events to members or nonmembers. So it's all about people trying out our community, seeing if they're really enjoying it, if it's for them. And they see, um, our membership program can bring them a lot of value into their life. And they'd like to continue being a part of the community. Speaker 1 00:02:14 We that's when we bring you on as a member. And that's when we get excited to have you thank you such a valuable resource to have in the Edmonton area. And it's wonderful to have you today's episode of a most unusual tea party is going to be a little bit different from our other podcasts, because we're actually going to do an in depth analysis of Kristen's penmanship. I'm going to take a look at the writing sample that she's provided to me, and I'm going to let you know what story it tells to me. Now, most of the time, remember, I don't personally know my guests before inviting them onto this show and I just leave it to their writing to tell me what I need to know. I have met Kristen before. So I do know her a little bit. However, I put that out of my mind and when I'm doing the analysis, it really is just about sample and what's in front of me now for more about that process, be sure to check out season one episode, one of the most unusual tea parties. Alright, so are you ready to get rolling? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. So I'm just really curious. I've already sent you the report with my findings and I'm curious before I get into it to see if you'd like to share your impressions about that analysis. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:03:30 So first of all, Theresa, thank you so much overall. I was actually quite impressed with how much information you were able to pull from a sample that took me not very long to put together for you at all. Personally, it was really interesting to read and learn more about kind of where some of my personality traits can really be flared within my actual penmanship and what that looks like to me that kind of stood out to me. There are certain things on this that I'm like that's so me and I can, you know, I can tell and it almost, at some point, you know, I would kind of like laugh out loud, reading it, going. Yeah, that would be me kind of thing. So it was, it was interesting that's for sure. Yeah, it did bring up a bunch of questions just because now I'm so curious into learning more about what you do and how you've been able to create this analysis based off of my head. Speaker 1 00:04:29 Yeah. Wonderful. You know, that's so often a common response is people just cannot believe how much information is actually revealed in their, in their handwriting really is amazing how much information we can get. One of the things that I want to tell you is that when I'm doing an analysis, I'm always looking for something that either one is really remarkable. I won't see it in, you know, 95% of the samples that I see. I'm not going to see it. So I'm going to always look for that first. Is there anything that really stands out to make it unique? And the other thing that I look for, something that I call the rule of three, it's either going to be a trait stroke that happens at least three times, or there's at least three different signs that point to the same thing. And that's how I get the information and feel very comfortable saying this is you. Are you curious about what was most distinctive about your handwriting when I looked at it at arms distance? Speaker 2 00:05:25 Yeah. I'm so curious. You've got me totally excited. Yeah. I'm really excited to learn more. All right. Speaker 1 00:05:32 The first thing that really stood out for me was the size of your letters. Well, you did a combination, you did some handwriting and you did some printing. And in both of those, your letter sizes are slightly larger than average. And there is an average size. We all learned, you know, the same way that the Palmer method and your letters are slightly larger than average. So that was the first thing that really popped out at me is that larger size. And that really shows somebody who is willing to engage with the world around them. Ah, that's so interesting, especially with what I do. Yes. Right. Speaker 2 00:06:08 So awesome. I love hearing that. Speaker 1 00:06:11 The second thing is that you have a really gentle, it's a concave curve in all of your lines. So we call it a baseline, right? So if you start with the first letter in the first word on a line, and then you line it up with the last letter of that line and you draw a line across, you're going to see your baseline and there's people who will write almost ruler straight, perfectly in line there's people that will write uphill. And there's people that ride downhill. And then there's people like you who write with a little bit of a concave. And what that means is it goes up very gently and then it comes back down to the baseline. And it's a very beautiful little gentle curve, sort of like a baby rainbow. Oh. And that is very distinctive to have that in the report. Speaker 1 00:07:00 I talk about how keeping your goals small so that you can reach them, that you're not somebody who is going to enjoy. It's not to say that you can't do it. It's just that you're not going to enjoy setting a really big goal. That seems really far out in the future and really hard to get to because you're going to lose momentum. You're going to lose steam. You're going to lose enthusiasm for it, because what that means is you start off and you have enthusiasm for something. And then by the end, you start to taper off. Does that make sense? Speaker 2 00:07:31 Yeah, that does definitely make sense. Um, especially when it comes to like managing, you know, my every day life. Like I find that, of course I have like a large goal in mind, but I do find that I'm much more effective if I can break it down into more tangible goals. Because for me, it's like checking things off of a list and like being able to make sure that those things on the list are all relating to my large goal. But I do find that I stay more motivated if I can break it down. Speaker 1 00:08:07 So beautiful. I love that. That you'd like to know that it is actually related to the goal. Speaker 2 00:08:14 Yes, very much so. Speaker 1 00:08:15 And do you ever feel like sometimes you go off tangent? That was kind of a question that I, Speaker 2 00:08:24 I would rather have asked someone who works with me because I think I do, but at the same time, sometimes within my role it's to go off tangent, like to become like an idea maker and an innovator like that part of my personality is really played on in my role. And so the issue that I have the most with is I can come up with really great ideas. Um, but how to execute it. I don't really care to put my energy into it. So I like to know like what the idea, the big idea is and what the reason is to have this idea. What is the goal behind this for the business or for, you know, even just in life, but the execution staff is not my jam and that's why it's so good to have other people on my team to help me with that because it's just not where I do. Well, I love that you said that Speaker 1 00:09:20 Because really what that relates to is in handwriting, we have, what's called zones. There's an upper zone, there's a middle zone. And then there's a lower zone and the upper zone is all about, uh, ideas and intellectual learning. So you often see that in scientists, you're going to see that. Um, if you look at Barack Obama's handwriting, his upper zone is very, very dominant. There. They're really big thinkers that can say, this is what I want to see. And then there's the middle zones in the middle of tones are very much concerned about today. They're very present moment orientated. And they're saying, okay, tell me what I need to do today. Tell me why this is important today. And then I can follow through with it. And then your lower zone are the people that zone is a little bit different cause that relates to physical drives. Speaker 1 00:10:16 So that's going to be like your drive for money or your drive for exercise or, or the sex drive. And your handwriting is very middle zone dominant. And so that is very much you want to know about here. And now tell me about the benefit now and I can do it now. So interesting. So what I also found really fascinating is that in your handwriting, your upper zones were much larger. And when I looked at your signature, one of your ELLs always, always goes higher. Yeah. So you definitely have that element of the intellectual of the big ideas as well. It's just that you're not necessarily prone to look at all of the little details of it. You'd rather get into the doing of it rather than flushing out the idea itself. Speaker 2 00:11:02 Yeah. I, that does make sense to an extent because like I like to come up with like, Oh, this is what we should do because this will help solve this problem. But connecting the dots is not really what I like to focus on too much. Like if it's something that I can do immediately, I get excited. But yeah, if it's something that I need to like wait for it can, my motivation can slide off. Speaker 1 00:11:24 So another element of your writing that I think contributed to a lot of the report is that you have roundedness. So there's two different types of writing. There's one type that's angular. If you think of Donald Trump's signature, I'm not sure if you've ever seen it, but it's really just a series of up and down, up and down. There's a, it's just the most bizarre signature ever. And it's very angular or you can have a very rounded script and yours is, there's not a lot of sharp angles. There's no 90 degrees, it's all very round and very soft looking. And what that really comes back to is that communication is super important for you. Harmony teamwork, keeping the peace, all of that is a priority for you even to the point where sometimes when you maybe should speak up, you might not speak up. Speaker 2 00:12:14 Yeah. That one, that one I struggled with a little bit. Um, only because like, of course the speaking up thing, because I would say on my team, I'm probably one of those people that is, isn't afraid to speak up to an extent, but where I get, where I get a little cautious about it is, you know, and I think you mentioned this in your report was saying when it's something that I know might cause a little bit of a friction. And that's when I get a little bit concerned because I don't want to come across the wrong way. And sometimes like my family, I grew up in a house with mostly all women. It was very much my female dominated in the house. And so I ran into a lot of conflict when it came to my tone or like the way that I would communicate things maybe was too blunt for some of the personalities that I live with that were a lot different than mine. And so because of that, I've become over time. Like that's where I get concerned. I get cautious. My intention is never to do, you know, the harm, but sometimes it comes across harmful, isn't it? Sometimes I don't even know until someone points it out and then I'm like, Oh, like, I'm so sorry. Like, you know, just so you know, I didn't mean that. Speaker 1 00:13:34 Absolutely. And that's great. Thank you for that clarification. And that is what I meant is that sometimes you might not speak up when you think it's going to cause friction because you want to keep the peace. Yes. That's your motivating force. There is harmony and peace. And if you can do that, you're going to do that. Speaker 2 00:13:50 I'm so happy that that's what it's about because of that. Yeah. That's that is been, that's been probably my biggest struggle is like that, that portion. So that's interesting you bring that up. Speaker 1 00:14:02 Yeah. It's just like the body stores, memories, it stores, your stress does store everything. And then in your handwriting, it as a way for it to be released, it's interesting that you were talking about, you know, the feelings thing and that's, how did you phrase that? You said that sometimes the feelings would get a little bit and they might get a little bit overwhelming and you weren't sure. Speaker 2 00:14:22 Yeah. The only, because I guess my communication style can come across very blunt sometimes, but I'm a people pleaser all at the same time. So it's that balancing act between the two. And so I would find myself in situations like with my sister, for example, her and I have very different personalities in the way we communicate and I would kind of over-communicate for her and she wouldn't Speaker 1 00:14:49 Be happy to hear me use a certain tone or she would think that me being short is because I'm frustrated when that's not the case. So it was just learning how to communicate with people that don't take my communication style, you know, very well at times. Yeah. Yeah. And that comes back to that desire to communicate with people that's really important to you. Right. Those nice, beautiful rounded forms that I see all the way through your, your handwriting and your penmanship shows that communication is of utmost importance to you. So you are curious about how do I communicate most effectively with somebody else? What is it that I can do so that they understand me better? Yeah. That's probably one of the, like one of the most exciting parts about like leading a team is, is like understanding and learning and executing different ways to communicate with different team members and really understanding how best to go about that. Speaker 1 00:15:56 So you are like in the sweet spot for jobs then being where you are, you have lots to Fairmont with and understand and learn about. Yeah, definitely a lot of growth and great, great experiences. So yeah, I couldn't be happier. Another part that I just want to bring up about your handwriting is the slat. So in graphology, when we talk about the slant, there's basically three very distinctive ways to slash your writing. You can have it slanted to the left. That means all of your letters are kind of leaning to the left hand margin, or you can have it pretty vertical, which means basically up and down, or you can have it slanted to the right, which you can probably guess means that the handwriting is slanted to the right hand margin. And each one of those means something very, very different. And it's, it's one of the ones that in graphology, it's, it's amazing how accurate this particular trait is. Speaker 1 00:16:55 Christian. Your handwriting is very much up and down. It's vertical. It's not really slanting to the left or the right when we look at your handwriting, that changes a little bit, but I know that you're not super comfortable with it. And I think that that variance is a little bit more due to the uncertainty of the motions that you're making. And you're concentrating on it a little bit too hard because in your printing, it's like so consistent it when I measured it and we have different degrees, right? There's different levels of it. And yours is consistently within the same level for slant and that straight up and down what you have shows that you like logic. And if somebody can explain something to you that makes you happy, you want to understand it. You're not one to react just off of the cuff, right? You're not one just to express your and the results be damned. You're much more to say, Nope, I'm going to take a moment. I'm going to process this and what makes sense, what is the best way to proceed? What is the best way to, to respond? And if somebody can fill you in with their logic and bring you up to where they are so that you can understand them, then you're going to be much happier in some ways, if you want to think of it, it's like your head rules, your heart rather than being. Speaker 2 00:18:16 Yeah. I think, I think that comes with a bit of age for me. Um, probably because, especially, I think in the recent few months, like just the amount of the amount that I've had to like stress that muscle and really like be, you know, make logical decisions over emotional decisions like professionally or personally. I think that's something that like, I've, I've had to flex that muscle more in 2020 than in 2019 and, and going on forward. So I think that makes a lot of sense now, especially as a young mom and things like that. So there is that, that side of me that's been more and more brought out. Speaker 1 00:18:56 Yeah. And you know, that's a really interesting point that you bring up, our handwriting does change. It does evolve and you can look at your handwriting from, you know, years ago. And it's almost like looking at a picture of yourself and you're saying, Oh yes, I remember that. And it's not. Speaker 2 00:19:10 Yeah, no for sure. I did a university degree. So, and I, this was a while ago, so I wrote a lot. I wasn't on the, on my laptop very often. It was more of a note taker. And I think, I remember seeing more of a slant in my writing at that time Speaker 1 00:19:24 Towards the left eye. Yes. Interesting. Would you like to know what that means? Yeah, please. What, when it slaps more to the left, it actually means somebody who is a little bit more reserved and a little bit more, you might not like the sound of this, but a little bit more selfish. It is somebody who puts themselves first. And as you change the slant more and more to the right, it means you're putting other people more and more in front of yourself. So for somebody in college that is definitely a time where most people are very focused on themselves. Right. It's, you're educated and you're having fun. And it's your time to parties. Speaker 2 00:19:58 Yeah. I would want, like I have a young daughter and I would want her to be selfish in her college years. It's important as a woman to have a phase in your life where you get to be selfish. Speaker 1 00:20:09 Yes. I so agree with that statement. It's got such a negative connotation and yet putting yourself first and saying, this is my goal. This is what I want is really empowering and it's not bad. Speaker 2 00:20:22 Yeah, exactly. And I should, I should even clarify a little bit there because it's important too, to do so much of that in your, even your daily life, putting yourself first, because you do have to take care of yourself before you can take care of others. I do really believe that. And I'm learning that more and more as a mom with my little one she's only eight months old. So I've done a horrible job of putting anyone else first besides her over the past eight months. So I've had to kind of consciously adjust how, how I approach that. But I do think that as I evolve as a mom and as my little one involves showing her that it's important to take care of yourself because you're the only one that really can Speaker 1 00:21:13 At certain points of your life, Speaker 2 00:21:15 It's really important to, to kind of reflect that in, in what you do in your daily life. So they can kind of mirror that if they wish, if they take that, Speaker 1 00:21:26 That is beautiful. What a beautiful wish to leave for your daughter that's on is wonderful. As I look at your report, another thing that really stood out was your sense of what's proper and that you would like people, you know, very traditional and wanting people to do what is expected of them. And you, you hold that standard for yourself as well. Speaker 2 00:21:47 Yeah. That's definitely something that stood out to me as well. And I would say just with the type of, even, even my type, like the marriage that I'm in, like, I'd say we're more of a traditional role type of couple in most circumstances as a business owner that kind of flares everything up, which I love. And I think he loves that too. Um, with me owning my own business and being creative and having that outlet and, and, you know, being independent and having that as so important. And I love that, but I do think that when it comes to our daily lives, like what's important and what kind of makes the wheels turn for our family is, is some of the more traditional aspects of a wife and a husband and a mom for me, for my life. That's just something that I can say would be relatable to them. Speaker 1 00:22:37 Yeah. And that's awesome. Right. And it's such an important thing to recognize and be okay. Speaker 2 00:22:42 Yeah, I do. I think that, you know, there's values that we hold strong for each other, as husband and wife and, you know, same with him, you know, there's traditional things that I think that he is very, he approaches in a traditional mindset as well. And, and for us, it's working very well. Um, it's, you know, not to say that it's for everyone, but for us, it definitely is. And, and I think that that has something to do with Speaker 1 00:23:10 You're you're saying it's not for everyone and that's okay, we're talking about you and what makes you tick? And you've got a partnership where it sounds like you both honor that in one another. And ultimately that's the most healthy thing you can possibly have is when you are honoring one another, in a very core belief Speaker 2 00:23:27 You have. Yes. Very, that's a great way of putting it. Yeah. That's exactly it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:23:34 You found somebody who can support you and honor that. And that's beautiful. So the way that we can tell that in your hand, writing that that is strong for you is because you will pay all of the writing worlds. Your, your margins are beautifully straight on the one side and you have the right amount of space and they're all beautifully, beautifully placed your, your line. Spacing is nice. There's no entanglement everything in regards to how you put it on the paper. So that, it's what we call the gestalt, everything, how you've put it on the paper, follows the rules. So it shows me that you're a very traditional thinker. And for that, it's good because there's nothing more scary than seeing somebody who totally abandoned all the rules. It's actually one of the things that you'll see a lot. If you look at the handwriting of criminals, they don't follow the rules in their handwriting. It's a very scary thing, so, Oh, wow. Yeah. It's quite a fascinating thing to see. You can even have them writing online paper where, you know, you have that margin on the left hand side and red, and they're like right over top of it. Speaker 2 00:24:36 So does that drive you insane? Speaker 1 00:24:39 So it's a red flag, right? It's something that if I see that it's like, Oh, you know, you might want to be cautious here because they're going to break all the rules. And sometimes that's okay. But sometimes that's really hard. Right, right. It's hard to live with that every day. And especially in a job situation, do you really want somebody who's breaking the rules or do you want somebody who follows the rules? Speaker 2 00:24:58 Yes. Especially like, you know, there's some positions where, you know, maybe that's a good thing, but they're fewer and far between. Yes. Speaker 1 00:25:08 And it's a matter of identifying that. If that's what you want, then that's what you look for. And if it's not what you want, then you say, okay, we're going to give a pass to somebody who writes through the margin. I'm curious whether you have any other questions or anything that you would like to bring up about the report or anything that we've talked about yet. Speaker 2 00:25:25 I'm curious to know, cause you broke it down into some categories. So there's the sales style and the management style. I would, I'm curious to kind of know and dive deeper a little bit more on the sale stock style that you have said the sales style portion. I'm just kind of curious into seeing if you could enlighten me a little more on how you were able to find that with the writing and maybe you can share with everyone what you were able to write and find. Speaker 1 00:26:01 Yeah, for sure. So within the sales style, there was a couple of different points. There. One is the aesthetics that they're a very important part of your life, uh, that you want to be in an attractive environment nets. That's just important for you. And the way that we know that is because remember how we were talking about the upper zone, middle zone and lower zone, and that your printing is very middle zone dominant. When we look at it, it's larger than the rest. And that's basically what we see as your middle zone and the middle zone. When you write with a larger middle zone, it tells us that aesthetics are important to you. It's just part of that dynamic. We know that because you are very much in the present, you want that present to be beautiful. You, you need it to be comfortable for you. Speaker 1 00:26:55 And I mean, I say beautiful, but really that's such an arbitrary term because for everybody it's different. So let's go with the term comfortable. It has to be comfortable for you. And if it's not there, you're going to feel off balance. And you're going to be working to try to bring you in. The next thing that we talk about is that you follow through most of the time, but there's occasions where you might let something fall through the cracks and a, to do list, helps with items to check them off as they are completed. So we sort of touched on that already a little bit. This again comes back to your baseline. Your baseline is not perfectly flat. It does have a little bit of a concave to it. There's a concave curve to it, which shows us that you get enthusiastic at the beginning, but you might lose enthusiasm for it. Speaker 1 00:27:41 So if the goal is a little bit out of reach, it might just kind of get that to the side and you might not come back to it unless somebody reminds you or if it's on a checklist to get completed. Does that make sense? Yeah, for sure. We talk about when you have an opportunity to take the initiative, you still not time to back up your judgments with facts and figures before proceeding, that comes back to the whole head over heart. You're not one to dive into something without knowing what are you diving into, um, which isn't to say that you're not just going to jump in feet first, but for many of your decisions in life, you arguing to your first response is going to be a pause to say, is this the right thing for me? Do I have all of the information that I need before I make this decision? Speaker 1 00:28:31 Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So, okay. That's the part with the slant, right? That's a yes. On your slant being the vertical, showing us that you're not one to be simply emotionally reactive. Right? I love it. Is there anything else for you that really stood out Kristen? What I was happy to, to, to see, because for me again, this comes from like growing and becoming more of, I'd say more of a woman, a little less of a girl would be, I was excited to see the fact that, you know, although you are not a shrinking violet, neither do you seek a great deal of public recognition or acknowledgement. I liked seeing that because I'm getting more and more comfortable with that where now in my life compared to 10 years ago, even I think I needed more recognition and acknowledgement to feel like I was successful to an X, to a circumstance, right. Speaker 1 00:29:34 To a certain degree. Whereas now I'm just, I'm so comfortable with not to show boat, not having to, you know, be on social media, sharing all these great things that are happening in the happening in my life or in my marriage or in my, whatever. I'm so comfortable living in my little bubble and, you know, having really great quality relationships, not necessarily quantity relationships. And so I was excited to see that because it's something that I've been working on consciously, you know, with myself esteem over the past 10 years, I would say, um, to get to a point where, you know, I don't need that public recognition. I don't need that acknowledgement from others to continue to keep doing what I'm doing. Like it's just, I'm doing these things in my life because I want to be in because I have a calling to be. Speaker 1 00:30:34 And I'm so glad that you did bring that up. I can tell you how that really shows in your handwriting. It's a couple of different things. One is your T's where you cross your T's is very much related to your self esteem. If you have somebody who crosses their T's really low, then it's a low self esteem. And if it's really, really high and not even attached to the STEM, it's indicating vanity, but you're there. They're in between to the top that you go is about two thirds of the STEM of your T. And then the lowest that they go is just to sit above your middle zone, that shows that you have a healthy self confidence, and you're not looking for others to validate you. The other part of that is your signature is slightly smaller than you're printing a signature. Is that outward persona that we want other people to see, and your signature is slightly smaller and it's also not readily readable. Speaker 1 00:31:34 Yeah. That's because it's getting too long. Now that I'm married. I don't think I've ever properly written it actually, since I've been married, that combination of it being not readily recognizable means you're not looking for the public accolades and that it's slightly smaller against says, you're not looking for your self esteem to come from others. You've got it already. You don't need people to tell you that you're doing amazing and that you're great. You already know it. I love that. Like I, you know, I think that's important to have, to an extent if, if you're lucky enough to have that, I think it's important. And it's something that I hope other women can hear that part and go, Oh, that's like my signature, you know, and, and feel like wear that on your shoulders. Cause it's a good, it's a good thing to have. I think it's, I think it's a, that self-assurance is so important to walk life with and through all the seasons. Speaker 1 00:32:30 I totally agree with you. And if you look at the signatures of successful people, you'll often see, they're very unassuming. I'm not talking about celebrities, I'm talking people who are successful in business and you're going to see quite often, they're very unassuming. They might have one or two really distinctive features, but for the most part, they're very straightforward and smaller. So it's good that you've been working on it. And it's actually there, it's surprising how often we'll hear that when we do an analysis of people will be like, I'm consciously working on that. And I'm so glad it's showing. Oh yeah. That's, it's almost like a, the way you can look at it, getting your handwriting, analyze it to an extent is you're, you're kind of looking at where it's a snapshot in time almost because it's, what's going on. What's affected you, you know, a lot of what I was reading from the report to me, like it was, it was almost like as recent as like within weeks of what has occurred in my life. Speaker 1 00:33:31 And so it's interesting to see that aspect be highlighted and be able to take away. You're doing good kid in a certain circumstance, you know, and here's something you can work on, but here, you know, so it's that type of analyzing is really, it's really interesting. I think it's really unique. I don't think you can get that from a lot of things. It's exactly what it is. This is really present moment. And that's why it's such a powerful tool for people is because if you are struggling with something, if you know what you're looking for, you can do a handwriting sample, get it analyzed, and you're going to be able to see what are you struggling with? Wow. Reading site. Um, as we wrap up, I am just going to ask you, I know that you had your mug handy, that you had something to drink during our most unusual tea party. Speaker 1 00:34:21 And I'm curious, what's in your mug. You've may know me as usually having something warm, like tea or something bubbly like a white cloth or something like that because it is summertime. Um, but tonight I am really boring. I had a very salt based dinner, so I'm been craving water. So I just have water in my cup. You're being good and healthy. I in my cap have decided to have some, some white wines. Oh, good for you. I should have joined. And I just want to thank you again for being willing to jump in and try this and allow us to delve a bit deeper into what it is that makes you, you, and thank you so much for having me. And I've learned a lot and I'm really excited to just keep this on me. You know, I have this report with me and I'm always kind of look at it every now and then, and maybe we can do another one of these in another season of life and see what it's like. Then Speaker 0 00:35:22 Thanks for listening. If you're wanting to hear more from Theresa and her guests, be sure to subscribe on the platform of your choice and follow her on Instagram at handwriting underscore pie. Speaker 1 00:35:42 If you would like more information about Kristin or YAG boss babes, you can email Kristin at YAG that's spelled Y E G bus [email protected] or follow them on Instagram at <inaudible>.

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